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TGO Magazine / ULTRALIGHT BACKPACKING / Lightweight and Photography
Posted Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 18:11:40
JH
Posts: 512

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

I must say, I've always fancied a Ricoh. I'm seriously beginning to question taking my DSLR on the Challenge, and I could buy a very good compact with the money I had earmarked for a wide angle lens.

A tip I heard somewhere for low light situations is to take 20 or 30 shots, something that would have seemed extravagant before todays vast memory cards. The idea is that the hands aren't shaking all the time and one of those 20 shots will be steadier than the rest. I don't know how true this is.

Posted Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 20:13:45
Ian Battersby
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RE: Lightweight and Photography

Thanks for posting that link Chris, it makes a really interesting read. Okay 13x9" prints isn't A3, but I wonder how the G10 would compare to full frame or AP sized sensors (smaller than medium format). It seems logical that print sizes would have to go even larger before the results become distinguishable from one another. If so maybe the G10 could be capable of competing with DSLRs in terms of the print quality.

It's interesting that the author feels this is possible because advances that occurr at the lower end of the market (compacts) reap a bigger reward than those occurring at the top (medium format). As I've said I only have one digital camera so my practical experience is limited, but I subscribe to both Outdoor Photographer and Amateur Photographer magazines, so I've picked up a fair bit in this rapidly changing area. I've always regarded technology for compacts as being seperate to that for DSLRs, and in many ways more challenging, and so advances here are indeed cutting edge. The problems that the industry has to overcome in each field are different. Eg. with full frame sensors the challenge is to get the light to fall as evenly as possible over that wide area (as it has to hit a sensor head on rather than at an acute angle - didn't matter with film). With the small sensors of compacts this isn't a problem, but here the problem of amplifying the tiny signals each photosite produces is a problem, because the by-product is noise. From what I've read I've been assuming that the desire to pack more and more pixels onto the sensor has been driven by the love of the headline it produces (which translates into more sales) rather than looking to increase picture quality for the photographer. I wonder what it is in the G10 that has brought about this seemingly significant change?

John - have you looked at the link? There's a shot at the end taken at 1/13th sec handheld using IS. These are certainly possible to take without camera shake, and probaby a couple of stops lower using the technique you suggest, but many of my shots taken in low light may be up to 30 seconds long, and wouldn't be possible unless looking for a Turner prize perhaps, as I'm sure you know. We're all different, and I guess that the answer would be to try it at different shutter speeds. For me I'd rather take a small tripod. I think repeating the same shot many times would take some of the joy out of it.

Posted Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 13:29:59
Backpack Brewer
Posts: 467

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

not sure what i did wrong there but my photo links didnt appear to work! Anyone have any ideas on this or have also have issues with posting pictures embedded into replies????

Posted Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 14:06:36
Ian Battersby
Posts: 742

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

Try this:

1. Post picture on your profile (or possibly anywhere on t'internet), right click on it and select Copy Shortcut
2. Start a post on the Forum
3. Hit the Picture icon (above your post in the making) when you want to insert the piccy(s) (or press ctrl+P)
4. Right click in the URL box and select Paste (to paste in your shortcut you copied earlier)
5. Submit the post as usual

Posted Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 15:28:04
yomper
Posts: 1263

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

Ian & BB

I use another way, not sure if its easier but I will explain just in case it helps folks out

Join Photobucket.com - its free

Upload your pictures to their site

When you have a photo you wish to post here from Photobucket, copy the URL code which will come up under the photo ( press ctrl + C )

When you are ready to include the chosen picture here click on the little picture icon on the bar above box

A little box appears - then simply 'paste' the code into that box ( press ctrl + v )

You will see a longish code appear in your post - thats the code for your photo

Finally press submit and your photo should appear

Sounds daunting, but its fairly easy to do

Hope this helps

Regards

Yomper

Posted Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 14:52:25
BILL
Posts: 1

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

I'VE BEEN CONTEMPLATING THREE MONTH TRIP IN FRANCE,SPAIN WITH DSLR, CHARGING BATTERIES WITH SOLAR CHARGER ON BACKPACK. IS THIS PRACTICAL/EFFICIENT OR WOULD I BE BETTER JUST PICKING UP BATTERIES ALONG THE WAY? BILL.

Posted Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 15:37:03
JH
Posts: 512

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

I don't know if there is a DSLR that runs on regular batteries. The good news is that the battery life of DSLRs is much longer (in terms of number of shots taken) than compacts. If your sending a box on ahead of you you might include the DSLR's charger, or maybe a few charged DSLR batteries would last the 3 months.

Somebody with experience of 3 month trips will be along shortly and advise you.

John

Posted Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 02:12:49
Backpack Brewer
Posts: 467

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

thanks for the replies Ian and Yomper.
Ian, I tried your way and it doesnt seem to want to play ball so is it because I am on IE7? I could try on Firefox. I'll have a play and see whats what

Posted Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 10:41:23
Ian Battersby
Posts: 742

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

Don't know Backpack, but I'm on IE 6. Put a post in Problems for the web guys.

Posted Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 09:34:18
Dave Hanlon
Posts: 258

 
RE: Lightweight and Photography

I'VE BEEN CONTEMPLATING THREE MONTH TRIP IN FRANCE,SPAIN WITH DSLR, CHARGING BATTERIES WITH SOLAR CHARGER ON BACKPACK. IS THIS PRACTICAL/EFFICIENT OR WOULD I BE BETTER JUST PICKING UP BATTERIES ALONG THE WAY? BILL.

Bills question is an interesting one. Like JH I don't have a good feeling for this but I think its an interesting question and hope it doesn't get buried in the thread. I guess by far the best tactic is to take a single battery a charger and to take every opportunity to charge it up.

I know canoe trippers use solar chargers but they have the luxury of a) being able to carry teh weight and b) having somewhere to lay out an aray of cells with a large surface area. Just looking at whats avaialable, in terms of weight, some look attractive. I see 3W chargers at a cost of €150 that weigh around 150-200g that claim 4-8hrs charge time for a "digital camera". My compact has a battery which weighs about 20g. I could carry 7-10 charged batterries before the solar charger started to get interesting in terms of weight. However cost wise there is some advantage. My DSLR has a battery that weighs 45g but I guess it demands more power (i.e. a heavier solar array). I then see solar cells from 200-350g with 6-12watts output and the weight equation starts to look more interesting.

Íf I get time i'll do some calcs on the basis of my own DSLR but I wonder if anybody (Chris?) has done these already.

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